Thursday, April 05, 2007

Godly Womanhood

Godly womanhood...the very phrase sounds strange in our ears. We never hear it now. We hear about every other type of women: beautiful women, smart women, sophisticated women, career women, talented women, divorced women. But so seldom do we hear of a godly woman - or of a godly man either, for that matter. We believe women come nearer to fulfilling their God-given function in the home than anywhere else. It is a much nobler thing to be a good wife than to be Miss America. It is a greater achievement to establish a Christian home than it is to produce a second-rate novel filled with filth. It is a far, far better thing in the realms of morals to be old-fashioned, than to be ultra-modern.
The world has enough women who know how to be smart. It needs women who are willing to be simple. The world has enough women who know how to be brilliant. It needs some who will be brave. The world has enough women who are popular. It needs more who are pure. We need women, and men, too, who would rather be morally right than socially correct.

-Former U.S. Senate Chaplain, Peter Marshall
Written in the 1940's


KatieG said...

Seems to me a woman can be both a "career woman" and a "godly" woman. Also seems that a woman can be both "smart" and "simple" And since when is it negative to be smart and sophisticated and talented?

If you are to choose a life of simplicity and tending to a home, that's fine, but why would you spurn knowledge and intellect at the same time?

I think that quote is a product of the times, and represents a male-dominated society unhappy with the progressive woman's movement.

Sheila said...

That's awesome Miriam! What great encouragement!
Thanks for sharing!!!

Elijah Lofgren said...


Ella said...

Wow! I wish there was this message way more often around here! I really appreciate it!

Cecilia Rose said...

Beautiful! I posted it on my blog too!

Anna Naomi said...

Was this in a book we read recently? It's really familiar for some reason. I really like this quote - thanks for posting it and thus reminding me of it!

Miriam Rebekah said...

Yes Anna, the quote is from "So Much More" at the seventh chapter.
I was just reading some of it the other day and found that quote, and it stood out to me.

Katieg, I want to answer your questions well. I believe that this was written more to wives than single women. I don't believe there is necessarily anything wrong with a single woman having a "career", as it were. But a wife should, scripturally, be at home tending her house and children, not out working.

There is also nothing wrong with being smart, sophisticated or talented, but it's when women show off and flaunt their brains and talents that it becomes wrong. We should use our God-given gifts humbly and be noticed for that rather than seek it for ourselves.

And in choosing a life of simplicity, I don't throw all the chances of knowledge. I think that we should be learning something everyday of our lives.

This was written around 60 years ago! This man, who had a passionate zeal for the Lord, spoke out against what he believed to be wrong. And I agree with him wholeheartedly!

If I have not answered any questions you may have asked, please tell me. I have tried to answer as I felt led.

Robert said...

That is a good quote.It's part of the sermon "Keepers of the Springs" that he wrote in 1942.He was able to see the direction society was heading.

Father's Grace Ministries said...

How wonderful to see such Godly young women latching onto these wise words from Peter Marshall!!
Just this week I posted myself on Keepers of the Springs including a link to the whole sermon, via my blog.
I pray our 2 little girls will desire to be Maidens of Worth, ten years from now.
God Bless
Claire (from Australia)

KatieG said...

I think that's a pretty chauvinistic way to look at the world, actually to say that a wife should be home taking care of the house. In fact, in this day and age, many families in America need and require dual incomes from both spouses....further, many many women across this country are able to maintain careers, and build strong loving families.

I also really feel sorry for you that you believe you should be somehow afraid to exhibit your knowledge, or talents. By choosing this path at such a young age, you seem to be completely foreclosing the idea of so many possiblilities for your life, for your career, or for your future family.

You say you believe in this quote wholeheartedly, but I guess I don't understand how a young woman in 2007 could somehow believe that women should not strive to be treated equally, to be allowed to have equal opporutunities, and should not seek out professions or lives which interest them simply because they would want to raise a family too.

It is all about finding the right partner and right man who is understanding enough to work with you to raise a family together, and not maintain outdated expectations that a woman will life a life of servitude.

There is nothing wrong with striving to live a pure and godly life, but to constrain yourself to outdated principals really causes you lose out on a lot of opportunities life may present. I would caution you to open your mind a little bit and not be so judgmental of choices other Christian women might make.

Ella said...

Miriam, Mom remeinded of where this quote came from. Are you liking So Much More? It really is a great book!

Miriam Rebekah said...

Katieg, I'm not going to try make you believe in what I believe in. If you don't agree with what I have written, then I suggest that you do not read our blog.

I'm not afraid to exhibit my knowledge or talent (if I have any). I have played in many recitals and concerts. :)

Constraining myself to "outdated principles"? Well, I guess that statement depends on the person saying it.

I very much disagree with you on many points, but arguing is pointless. I have allowed your comments so far, because I wanted to answer your questions, but if you continue to disagree with everything, then I will quit posting your comments. I'm sorry.

Miriam Rebekah said...

Yes Ella, I like the book. I've read it before, I was just looking through it again.

KatieG said...

well, i guess i'm just trying to suggest you think a little more openly about the role women can play in life.

outdated, meaning that when you look around the general society we live in, here in America today, that women in 2007 have far more opportunities presented than women did 60 years ago....and that society has become far more accepting of that fact. So a quote from so long ago seems "outdated" to me.

I just think you are far too young to choose a life of emptiness....and hold your entire purpose in life to be waiting for a husband to come and take care of you....rather than explore your interests, talents, knowledge and make a life for yourself.

Women in other nations only dream of the opportunities and freedom of women here in America, and you shouldn't disparage those that choose careers and education along with that of a family.

T. Suzanne Eller said...

I love the Proverbs 31 Woman -- intelligent, respected, a woman who was an entrepeneur, and loved by her family. A woman who was known in the marketplace, and lifted up by her husband as a woman of great value. Such an interesting person, and one that lived both a simple and intelligent and full life.

Miriam Rebekah said...

I don't deny being young, but if you are a Christian, then you must know that the Lord will lead you in different ways and you must follow, no matter how young you are.

To me, it is not a life of emptiness, not if Jesus is there. It is full...full of Jesus, my family (right now), and friends.

Miriam Rebekah said...

Thanks for visiting our blog,
T. Suzanne Eller! I hope that you'll enjoy reading it.

Mrs. Hart said...

Consider that my husband and I, with a lot of thought and planning, have decorated our home. We chose new furniture and searched for just the right paint colors to complement and accent. The result is a comfortable and peaceful environment. We enjoy this place because it is a reflection of who we are.

Now consider that someone comes to visit our home. The visitor immediately reacts disdainfully, finding fault with the decor, even going so far as to claim that her own home is much more tastefully decorated and that I should remodel everything to match her own color scheme and furniture styles.

I have several options: I could become righteously indignant and offended and resolve to never welcome her to my home again. Or, I could look beyond her words, actions and attitudes and perhaps glance into her heart to see what would cause her to be so rude and self-serving.

My curiosity is piqued. How did you come to find this blog? Since you have no similar interests, I am surprised that you choose to spend your valuable time attempting to dialogue with these girls who have no desire to participate.

Remember, this is their little corner of the blogworld. Consider that you have been in their "living room" pushing your ideas on them. They have been very polite. They do not want to argue with you. Please do not continue to try to make them in your image.


Excellent post! "So Much More" is a really good book. I was just re-reading parts of it today. :)

Father's Grace Ministries said...

To Katie g,
Just a note from a 39 year old Christian Mum of 2, who married in her 30's...
I grew up in the 1970's, when feminism was everywhere & I read all my Mum's magazines.Not being properly educated at the time in what Biblical Womanhood,actually was,I thought Feminism was great.At 17, I thought I may probably never have children,as they would get in the way of what "I" wanted to do.I was a Christian at the time,but didn't realise how full of selfish ambition I was becoming.As I sought to know God more through the Bible,I was challenged,and my whole view changed.At 25 I was still single, earning a good wage, & while I sought to find comfort in Christ, & kept busy serving in my church,I realized that my deepest yearnings were unmet-that of being married & raising a family for His glory.
God blessed me with my heart's desire in my early 30's & then how I'd wished I'd spent my single years preparing for marriage as Anna & Naomi & many others are doing.I thought running a home would come naturally-wrong!!Keeping a child-free flat clean was totally different!
Being a submissive wife to a Godly husband is a joy, not a burden.Motherhood is awesome,though never easy.Good Mum's aren't spurning intellect & Knowledge,the more education you have the better off you'll be & the more you'll be equipped to pour into the next generation- but this doesn't mean you need to go to college, many good Mum's are self-educated in many fields.We SAH Mum's don't sit on the couch watching soap operas all day, as the stereo-types would have us believe.
At the end of our lives,all we leave behind are those we've lead to Christ and the children we've raised.I wish I learnt that earlier.

Father's Grace Ministries said...

To the Maidens of Worth and Katieg.
As a preacher that travels the world it is not hard to see women of today come to think that God is not progressive, yet it usually is the one that has never truly known God as the loveing Father that has this view.It saddens me to think that at this time of Easter such a debate should even been entered into by you katieg. But a true and godly woman is the one who no matter what, continues to show GRACE in such a time and the Maidens of Worth have done just that. Katieg they do live in the now and have through-out this blog shown how talented and intelligent they truly are yet the one thing they have seen within their faith in God, is that the absolute pinacle of use of that talent and intelligence is to fulfill that most highest calling of being a mother and wife with their whole being and to not be dominated by one man for the rest of their life's, but freely sacrificing that which is freely theirs to give. Remember that God gives us all that free choice to do as we freely choose.

KatieG said...

Claire - I guess my entire point is that you don't need one extreme or the can find a happy medium where Christian women can be successful professionals and maintain their own indpendence and careers (if they choose) and still have a healthy, happy, strong home. It concerns me that young women foreclose that idea altogether. Your choice was based on your own understanding and experiences, but if you are taught to never seek out your own interests and your own profession, i think you're missing out on a lot of potential opportunities you may later regret. I think there is a balance that can be found...

Miriam Rebekah said...

What if my happy medium is where I am right now? Are you not infringing on my personal business?
What if I have found my balance?

I'm going to quit allowing your comments on this post. Arguing has never accomplished anything and never will.
If you would like to continue this conversation, my email address is off my profile.
Miriam Rebekah

Claire said...

Incredible! Don't we ever need more courageous leaders to speak up like this!


Jessica S. said...

Dear Miriam Rebekah,

Thanks so much for sharing the wonderful quote above. It's encouraging to know there are others like you out there.

katieg wrote:
"you can find a happy medium where Christian women can be successful professionals and maintain their own indpendence and careers (if they choose) and still have a healthy, happy, strong home."

Sadly, many fall into the belief that Christian mothers can "have it all." I have a lil' nephew and I can observe how difficult it is for a mother to raise a young child while building a career outside the home. Motherhood itself is a full time job. Especially when the children are young, I find it difficult to believe that a young mother can find a "happy medium" being a homemaker while going downtown with a briefcase. We try to do too many things at once, and we end up performing not well at anything. Let's face it: Building a successful full-time career outside the home isn't something that is effortless; it would take a certain amount of dedication and time, and thus, naturally would come at the expense of something (e.g. one's time with family, etc.).

Besides, there is nothing wrong with any ladies who aspire to be a full-time "keeper at home." More than that, the Bible calls it one of the highest callings. In fact, wives are commanded to love their husbands, teach their children, and be keepers at home (Titus 2:4-5). It is noble for a woman to devote her time fully to the service of her family. Rather than make some other boss' business prosper, I personally would rather make GOD's business prosper by serving my own family.

Here's a great quote I read recently by F. Carolyn Graglia:
"[F]eminists who ceaselessly inveigh against their own oppression by men (often hardly specifying its exact nature) would ignore how they themselves have oppressed ... feminine women. It oppresses a woman who could delight in domesticity to tell her that her domesticity makes her a parasitic inferior to men. It oppresses a woman who yearns to stay home with her children to tell her she is worthy only insofar as she achieves in the workplace."

Thanks again for the post, Miriam! May our wonderful God continue to bless you and the desires of your heart! :)

In His grace,